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Post by Alex "Graham Cracker" Bell on Aug 18, 2013 22:36:05 GMT -5
I'll post my shiz tomorrow night. Promise!
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Post by Alex "Graham Cracker" Bell on Aug 19, 2013 19:39:51 GMT -5
Sup bitches Congrats on making the F3! I'm actually not bitter and quite undecided, so let's just begin.So, I'm sort of confused. Your statements are kind of all over the place and I'm hearing conflicting results. I'm definitely curious about something. We all answer the pre-game questions at the beginning, but now that the game is almost over, I want to know where you stand. So, how did your strategy change from when you started the game to when you finished it? Also, how would you classify your gameplay? Like would you say you played a UTR game, were you a social butterfly etc.? I'm trying to keep an open mind, but I'm just curious to know how you viewed your own game.You pretty much had my vote to lose, and the more I read your answers, the more you lost it. I'm really curious to know exactly how loyal to me you really were. Having read some of the answers, it made perfect sense as to why you never wanted to vote out Vee though so I'll give you props to that. I'm not even sure that I have a specific question for you, just that I'm not exactly happy with you right now.I'll keep it brief for you. We both know that we were never *really* on the same side, but we never really hated each other either. So, why should I vote for you over the other two? Also, would you call yourself a hero or a villian, after thinking back to how you played?All 3 -What was your favorite move to make the entire game? -You've pretty much told me about everyone else, but I want to know about me. What did I do to get you to the end? -I'm too lazy to check if anyone else asked this but it's a compare question. Compare each juror, each other and yourself to one of the 7 deadly sins and give just 1 sentence as to why (trying to keep it short).
I'm soooo up in the air right now. Good luck ladies.
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Post by Sydney Wheeler on Aug 19, 2013 22:09:37 GMT -5
I felt like our relationship in this game was that there were no secrets...about us having secrets. When we first spoke in this game we had a deal to merge. Once we got to merge, we talked about wanting to go far with one another because we felt safe with the other, and that the other person would be honest when it came to votes. (At least that is how I felt) After Kim first left, you told me you had a final two with her. After the double Tribal Council results, you were like oh btw I had a final three with Danielle and Kim. Then in comparison there were times I was like oh btw I have an idol. We basically told eachother stuff when necessary - and still felt safe with the other regardless. That is how I saw us in this game, but I guess you didn't look at it like that? I knew you were having conversations about me being a threat and me getting voted out, as I brought to you the round we voted out Candice. Even if it wasn't your intention you weren't telling me you were saying those things to her. Once I confronted you on it I believed everything you said from that point onwards though, because you were telling me how difficult it would be to sit next to me but that you'd want to do it anyway because you were so loyal. You had never lied to me before and it's the reason I preferred Sean leaving over yourself from the Chase/You/Sean "can't beat the girls" alliance that I heard of. So with what I just highlighted, I hope you can see how I viewed us in the game from my perspective. The way I saw it was we didn't tell eachother everything, but still could likely count on the other because we had been with one another doing the same things since the final 20 swap. My favorite move to make would be the final 7 round and eliminating Candice, because I may not be here if not. I had just recruited Chase as a final two partner because I viewed Miki/Vee & You/Sean as people who would primarily take eachother to the end - so I needed to ensure I had someone who would choose me first and foremost. I was able to re-establish trust with you that round, right after hearing that you were thinking of getting me out with Candice. I then spilled the beans to Sean about alliances I knew to exist. So I feel like making the move to vote against Candice (And helping to sway you/Sean/Chase to commit) helped propel me to this final phase of the game. It eliminated someone hardcore after me, put me higher on the totem pole of trust with Vee & Miki, helped saved Chase, and at the time put myself in a good spot with You/Sean moving into those important final rounds. My relationships went through something drastic with literally everyone left by this point all in one round, all because I decided to take action against Candice before she did against me. You were definitely proved to be one of the most loyal players to me in the game. We both helped eachother get to where we did and we both got burnt by the same people. If you never joined up with me to rebel against Danielle and Kim after the Double TC blindside...I would definitely not be here. You were crucial in that vote because Chase wasn't ready to strike. To me, always knowing that you wouldn't vote me out over a lot people was comforting - because up until late in the game people also probably expected that you wouldn't vote me out which helped to protect me. Voting out Candice, a huge reason why I am for sure sitting here is not something I could have done without you. And again, you were also there for me on Kraken. We both could have easily landed in the minority on that tribe and without eachother could be Pre-Jury right now. Having you on that tribe was definitely a blessing for me so I have to thank you for sticking by me. In the end, after how everything played out, I can say you were always loyal to me in it even after a small hitch. GluttonyTed spent too much time and energy and obsessing over targeting certain people that it put a target on him and he was "consumed" by it. WrathAlexis was on a warpath to eliminate Danielle from this game and it seemed as though she was fueled by anger and rage. SlothWanda would not be on AIM to socialize and fell inactive for a period of time which, like a sloth, is considered lazy. GreedPart of the reason Judd was blindsided was because of his vocalization about votes not being the way he preferred. WrathAfter she was blindsided she was left feeling betrayed and hurt by people she trusted, filling her with anger. GreedWhen Judd intimidated her game she wanted him out right then and there, not considering the ramifications of reacting so fast, and thus causing her own demise by her own greed to get what she wanted. LustI feel Colby had an intense desire to prove why he was worthy of being an Allstar because he was picked as a replacement, and in such was part of the reason why he was dangerous to me. GluttonyShawna kept personal game strategies and cards to herself, "to the point of waste" because she never got to use them all. PrideEveryone put Kim on a pedestal by the way they perceived her and it hurt her pride by overplaying trying to meet those expectations. EnvyWhat eliminated Candice from the game was her envy of me in competitions and belief I'd walk away with the win, so she targeted me and it backfired. SlothPeople felt you were not as invested as other players socially and activity wise which is why they believed you wouldn't win. WrathOnce he was turned on in the game, he made it clear he was against those who burnt him and it resulted in some feuds for him. PrideSean had pride for his own game's choices and did not listen to Chase's argument for their survival. EnvyMiki wished to stray from the stigma she was living under a person's shadow, an example being she displayed discontent with Kim. LustVecepia displayed her desire to reach the end, as demonstrated by her performance alongside me in the final challenge. LustThe word I used to describe myself in one word pre-game was passionate, and I definitely have strong desires to win this game. Thanks Alex!
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Post by Alex "Graham Cracker" Bell on Aug 19, 2013 22:14:07 GMT -5
The only thing that I would argue with is, yes, I did tell Candice that you were a big target but I also told you that you were a big target. I understand why you made the moves that you did, but I was completely open with you about that, even before I mentioned anything to Candice.
No matter what though, I still think you're awesome! Good luck.
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Post by Sydney Wheeler on Aug 19, 2013 22:25:01 GMT -5
The only thing that I would argue with is, yes, I did tell Candice that you were a big target but I also told you that you were a big target. I understand why you made the moves that you did, but I was completely open with you about that, even before I mentioned anything to Candice. No matter what though, I still think you're awesome! Good luck. The reason it concerned me is it's different to acknowledge a threat opposed to for sure being on board to eliminate them: Candice Woodcock 2:33 am He totally wants to take her out He says he wants to go to the end with me so I got him bagged It led me to believe you were having conversations about voting me out or planning to, opposed to just recognizing "yeah she is a threat to win" It made me think you wanted me out badly by the way she phrased that. Which we cleared up anyway and thank you!
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Post by Saint Miki Wingle on Aug 19, 2013 22:46:10 GMT -5
I'd say up until Kim got voted out the first time I was very UTR as a player. While everyone else was putting out hits on each other I was taking notes on relationships and what not. When Kim left I started playing a harder social game. I am always a social player so it's not like I was living under a rock till Kim left. But her exit the first time made me use my skills to help further my own game. Plus I became a lot more approachable when Kim left and people viewed me as a free agent. I made relationships on all sides of the game that's how as Sydney said I was the safest player at merge cause of all my relationships with the other 15. It's also why I'm the most hated of the final three. Or at least that's how I feel lol. I can't blame anyone cause I shamelessly used all my personal connections with everyone as a stepping stone to make it to the end of the game. All 3 Easily the double boot round of merge. Eliminating Kourtney and Judd made the game a free for all and I took advantage by jumping ship and running the game with Sydney and Vee. You sold Candice out like yesterday's trash to put it lightly. It rubbed me the wrong way which is why regardless of whether or not Sydney had played the idol on chase or not I was gonna do anything to get you out next. That and I guess you didn't foresee Sean going to Vee and I to avoid a tie at f6. I'd of made sure that Sean felt extra comfortable if I were you. I'd of given him anything he wanted to keep him happy. Ted: Gluttony He over consumed and recycled information which is kind of like food in these games. Alexis: Wrath I feel as though if she hasn't attacked DD the round Kim left she wouldn't of had such an early exit at merge. Wanda: Sloth if she had actually participated in this game she could of been a force to recon with Judd: Greed I feel if he hadn't been so power hungry he wouldn't of gotten caught in his own deception Kourtney: Lust because her lust for power (her relationship with syd & dd) cost her the game. Had she branched out more socially she would of been safer IMO DD: Pride she wants it her way and that's not a bad thing but her desire to be the ringleader lost her the game Colby: Sloth mainly cause I feel as though he started playing the game at the merge? That's just how I feel Shawna: Envy? There isn't a good sin for her tbh. But I'd say envy for how upset she was Vee and I flipped? Idk Kim: Envy because she's made it public knowledge she's jealous of my relationship with Vee. Candice: Greed had she not been adamant about voting out Sydney she wouldn't of gone at 7 Alex: Sloth because he wasn't really around till like the final 11 Chase: Pride because he was to stubborn to flip with Vee and I and was adamant about the f4 of him Colby shawna and Vee Sean: Gluttony kind of similar to Ted but he didn't spew the info like a faucet as Ted did. He would use the 'food' given to him to further his own game but sometimes that info was false. Miki: Lust for my desire to make to finals no matter the cost Sydney: Greed her desire to survive was very apparent in challenges by the way she dominated Vee: Pride she had to have things her way and didn't want anyone else to be in control Not meant to insult anyone for the record!
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Post by Snakecepia "Judas" Towery on Aug 20, 2013 5:19:36 GMT -5
I'll keep it brief for you. We both know that we were never *really* on the same side, but we never really hated each other either. So, why should I vote for you over the other two? Also, would you call yourself a hero or a villian, after thinking back to how you played? [/b][/color] [/quote] Hey Alex! Thanks for your questions! To open this up, I think you should vote for me to win biggest I feel I played the strongest strategic game between the three of us sitting here right now. This game is about strategy, "Outwit, Outplay, Outlast", and no matter how you slice it, all three of those words have a basis on strategy. Every decision I've made in this entire game has been based on getting myself to the end and furthering my own game, not anyone else's. I didn't play for an alliance, or for another person. I played for myself and I did that using my social game, as well as my strategic prowess as a way to further myself, not based solely on challenges or anything of that nature. Bottom line, we all came in here with our own agenda, and feelings were hurt along the way, but this game is not about feelings. It's about strategy and oftentimes entails deception and lying. Every single person in this game has lied at some point or another, so even if players are bitter towards me for fibbing to them throughout the game, why should they be? They lied as well, so what makes the situation any different just because I got to the end? Yea, I hurt people along the way, but there's no doubt it's been done by others, whether they're sitting on the Jury, Pre-Jury, or next to me right now. If the biggest argument against me winning this game, lies in the fact that I betrayed/lied to others, something that has been done by nearly every single person on the Jury, or that I took Sydney to the end of the game, in part due to strategy, the main element for the basis of this game, then not voting for me to win would be an act of hypocrisy in my opinion. If Jurors are okay with that, I can't really stop them, but that's how I view the situation. I feel Sydney relied way more on challenges despite playing a great social game, and I feel Mikayla was overshadowed throughout the game, while my game was in the forefront, strategic, and very overt. To segway into your next question, I would say I was a villain this season. When it came down to it, my top priority was myself and getting myself to the end. There were certainly players I cared about along the way, but I broke a lot of hearts and did a lot of lying, things a villain does. Let's not forget I was a part of the "Cunt Coven" and have been called a witch, things that I don't think players would be saying unless they viewed me to be a villain. Thanks for you comments and questions once again! Onto your group questions! -What was your favorite move to make the entire game?My favorite move to make all game, was hands down voting DD out. This was her game to lose, and getting her out of the game was really when I felt like I had a shot to win the game, so in taking her out it gave me the feeling I might have a chance to make it to this point. -You've pretty much told me about everyone else, but I want to know about me. What did I do to get you to the end?You were part of a voting block that prevented the tables from being turned on me after the DD vote. Without you, it's possible the game could have been flipped on me, and I might not be here right now. -I'm too lazy to check if anyone else asked this but it's a compare question. Compare each juror, each other and yourself to one of the 7 deadly sins and give just 1 sentence as to why (trying to keep it short).
GreedI gave Ted greed, because I feel like Ted was so hungry to make a move for himself (Sandra), that he failed to realize what repercussions his actions might bring. WrathI gave Alexis wrath, because her inability to keep her emotions in check turned the most powerful player in the game against her, resulting in her downfall. SlothI wanted to give her gluttony because she was drunk a lot, but she wasn't around a lot so she definitely gets sloth. GluttonyJudd gets gluttony because I felt he was excessive in how he played the game, by attempting to be very close with everyone. PrideI gave Kourtney pride, because I feel she felt she was playing a better game than she actually was, and had a sense that she was in a really great spot, when in reality she got taken out when she wasn't necessarily needed anymore LustI think lust is the most fitting sin for Danielle, mainly due to her desire for power, and having things go her way. SlothI gave Colby sloth, due to the fact I felt he was more in the background than the forefront in the game. GreedI gave Shawna greed because I felt she had this desire to really be an independent player making sure she steered her own course, even if that meant going against her allies at times. LustKim gets lust for the same reason DD did, both had a strong desire for power, and to be in control. WrathI gave Candice wrath due to the fact she didn't always keep it a secret how she was feeling at certain times, and that in turn got her in trouble with Sydney, contributing to her elimination. SlothI gave you sloth because I feel you played a very under the radar game, and weren't viewed as the biggest player. WrathI gave Chase wrath because I felt at times, he didn't care if he upset other people or went against what they wanted, and just did what he wanted, regardless of what anyone else thought. EnvyI gave Sean envy, because I feel he had a desire for power, but could never really attain it in this season, placing him in a situation where he wanted to target those who held power. GreedI gave Miki greed because she wanted to get to the end, even if that meant screwing people over she was close to. WrathI gave Sydney wrath, because her anger at Danielle aided in the game splitting down the middle at the F11. LustI gave myself lust due to the fact I wanted to control my own fate to get to the end of the game, which entailed me putting myself in a position of power to do that. Thanks for your questions Alex, and good luck with your vote!
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Post by Alex "Graham Cracker" Bell on Aug 20, 2013 19:41:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer Vee and good luck.
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Post by Shawna Mitchell on Aug 20, 2013 23:27:09 GMT -5
GluttonyShawna kept personal game strategies and cards to herself, "to the point of waste" because she never got to use them all. Exactly what do you think I kept hidden/wasted? You've also mentioned this in comparing me to a giant purse monster. No, I didn't feel it was necessary to constantly spill info or rat people out - in general I think it's more important to listen than talk. But, I feel like you are just taking a statement from a previous convo we've had and running with it. What specifically do you think I kept hidden which ended up hurting me?
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Post by Sydney Wheeler on Aug 20, 2013 23:46:19 GMT -5
GluttonyShawna kept personal game strategies and cards to herself, "to the point of waste" because she never got to use them all. Exactly what do you think I kept hidden/wasted? You've also mentioned this in comparing me to a giant purse monster. No, I didn't feel it was necessary to constantly spill info or rat people out - in general I think it's more important to listen than talk. But, I feel like you are just taking a statement from a previous convo we've had and running with it. What specifically do you think I kept hidden which ended up hurting me? I am not saying it as a bad thing to keep stuff to yourself, but since this was comparing to the 7 deadly sins it has a negative connotation. The word "wasted" was in the 7 deadly sins description on wiki so I used it here. I am just saying it's what you chose to do when it came to our conversations after the double TC. You listened to me and let me talk without extending any sort of hope because at the time you felt in the better spot, but when things shifted and there was a new minority I feel that your decision to put all eggs in the one basket is what contributed to your downfall in the game As for this question and in the FTC you shed light on your play style - about listening more than talking, which is what I was trying to convey in this question. I meant to say I feel you had a lot you wanted to get done but never got the chance
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