Post by Sydney Wheeler on Aug 20, 2013 10:49:02 GMT -5
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Hi thanks!
Before this game we've played a couple ORGs together where we have always ended up targeting the other. The first time we ever met we were on opposite sides and got into a lot of confrontations. The next time we played we targeted eachother, came together for a common cause, then fell right back apart as we got closer to the end. We pretty much have always got along outside games as acquaintances, but once inside a game trust between us seemed like a joke.
I had this perception of you that you were impossible to trust, but I've come to see that is not the case. Sausage Allstars came around and we finally had conversations about non ORG related stuff which was building a friendship. When the game started we agreed, after getting to know eachother more personally, that we should be absolutely loyal to one another for once. We formed a fast finals deal and because of our conversations it was something I felt I would be able to trust more than anything.
Throughout this game I could tell you were fearful of our trust. Example being me picking Danielle first when I was a captain, despite not knowing the tribe pick em had a twist to it - and then we'd go a couple days not chatting because we were on different tribes. To me, and what I always tried to convey to you was, that we were good no matter what and that we didn't have to talk every day. I wasn't planning to worry about you because of it, and while you seemed scared about it, I believe you decided to trust me on that notion.
We didn't tell eachother everything though - despite being allies to the end. This was mostly during the Final 20's up until the merge, because we were never on a tribe. We were concerned for the others safety while on the Kraken/Quawan tribes - and I would share my worries to you where you were able to ease my mind about my stance. Once at the merge, when we were FINALLY together, we dished pretty much everything. I felt I could tell you anything and not have it bite me in the ass. You were able to tell me important things as well. There was no more concern between us and we were able to pass eachother the Hidden Immunity Idol and not worry about it. Eventually you got blindsided and I lost a super strong ally in you, which was a kick to the gut.
As for after the game, we're on better terms than ever. We were finally able to trust eachother in a game and that is like finding the Holy Grail. I know you might take a long hiatus, but I don't expect you not to keep in contact because that is silly.
I would say finally getting to know you and talking about non ORG stuff, because it finally shed some light on who you were because we really didn't know much about eachother. We pretty much had a history of not trusting eachother in games and it was probably due to the fact we never really sat down to talk about non game stuff. But also I would have to say your whole Rites of Passage obsession. It will never not be funny.
I see us being friends after the game obviously. We finally broke the barrier of just being ORG acquaintances. Getting to know people is a huge part of playing these games anyways. To stop talking to someone when the game is over is abrupt and pointless. Making all those relationships for 2 months - it's not just to win. Survivor is a social game, after all.
I think you put your actual self into these games, instead of playing up a persona for an ORG (or an alias for an ORG). You can't help being yourself and as you have said, can't help but play a certain way because you are who you are. Even if you come into a game planning to act a certain way to get far, it's likely not going to last. Eventually the real you is going to peak out. You're very outgoing and wear your heart on your sleeve, and things affect you strongly. As a person I think that is a great quality because people know what you are thinking and it can be frustrating when people don't share how they are truly feeling on things. (Not just in games but outside it) You've definitely become one of my best ORG friends so obviously I don't think you are a shitty person. People describe you as passionate and friendly, which isn't wrong.
Hope I didn't miss anything
Thanks Judd!
Hi thanks!
Explain our relationship before in and after the game
Before this game we've played a couple ORGs together where we have always ended up targeting the other. The first time we ever met we were on opposite sides and got into a lot of confrontations. The next time we played we targeted eachother, came together for a common cause, then fell right back apart as we got closer to the end. We pretty much have always got along outside games as acquaintances, but once inside a game trust between us seemed like a joke.
I had this perception of you that you were impossible to trust, but I've come to see that is not the case. Sausage Allstars came around and we finally had conversations about non ORG related stuff which was building a friendship. When the game started we agreed, after getting to know eachother more personally, that we should be absolutely loyal to one another for once. We formed a fast finals deal and because of our conversations it was something I felt I would be able to trust more than anything.
Throughout this game I could tell you were fearful of our trust. Example being me picking Danielle first when I was a captain, despite not knowing the tribe pick em had a twist to it - and then we'd go a couple days not chatting because we were on different tribes. To me, and what I always tried to convey to you was, that we were good no matter what and that we didn't have to talk every day. I wasn't planning to worry about you because of it, and while you seemed scared about it, I believe you decided to trust me on that notion.
We didn't tell eachother everything though - despite being allies to the end. This was mostly during the Final 20's up until the merge, because we were never on a tribe. We were concerned for the others safety while on the Kraken/Quawan tribes - and I would share my worries to you where you were able to ease my mind about my stance. Once at the merge, when we were FINALLY together, we dished pretty much everything. I felt I could tell you anything and not have it bite me in the ass. You were able to tell me important things as well. There was no more concern between us and we were able to pass eachother the Hidden Immunity Idol and not worry about it. Eventually you got blindsided and I lost a super strong ally in you, which was a kick to the gut.
As for after the game, we're on better terms than ever. We were finally able to trust eachother in a game and that is like finding the Holy Grail. I know you might take a long hiatus, but I don't expect you not to keep in contact because that is silly.
What are three things that you've taken away from me in this game, good or bad
- I learned you were vehemently loyal. While I know you've been loyal to certain people in the past, I always thought that maybe you could get irrational and flip on them. But I saw that if you trust someone 100% you really fight for them, even if it causes doubt on your own game.
- You are very opinionated and will do what you want and in such your morals are important to you. Like with the Alexis vote, you weren't comfortable voting her off and even though you said you would, you changed your mind last minute due to your relationship. Once again risking your stance in the game with your other allies. So I've taken away that you really value relationships both in and out.
- I've taken away from you that you are sensitive as an ally. And that you need more assurance than me just assuming you know I'd be loyal to you based on a couple conversations. It wasn't a secret that you were scared that I wasn't feeling the same way with you as an ally (even though I was), so I basically have seen that despite being very emotional to others, you are guarded when it comes to possibly being betrayed. (Because you don't want your friendship hurt)
Greatest memory inside or outside the game with Judd
I would say finally getting to know you and talking about non ORG stuff, because it finally shed some light on who you were because we really didn't know much about eachother. We pretty much had a history of not trusting eachother in games and it was probably due to the fact we never really sat down to talk about non game stuff. But also I would have to say your whole Rites of Passage obsession. It will never not be funny.
Views on relationship after the game
I see us being friends after the game obviously. We finally broke the barrier of just being ORG acquaintances. Getting to know people is a huge part of playing these games anyways. To stop talking to someone when the game is over is abrupt and pointless. Making all those relationships for 2 months - it's not just to win. Survivor is a social game, after all.
Three words to describe Judd (Also 3 things for your personality)
- Amicable
- Impassioned
- Candid
What do I think of you as a person
I think you put your actual self into these games, instead of playing up a persona for an ORG (or an alias for an ORG). You can't help being yourself and as you have said, can't help but play a certain way because you are who you are. Even if you come into a game planning to act a certain way to get far, it's likely not going to last. Eventually the real you is going to peak out. You're very outgoing and wear your heart on your sleeve, and things affect you strongly. As a person I think that is a great quality because people know what you are thinking and it can be frustrating when people don't share how they are truly feeling on things. (Not just in games but outside it) You've definitely become one of my best ORG friends so obviously I don't think you are a shitty person. People describe you as passionate and friendly, which isn't wrong.
Hope I didn't miss anything
Thanks Judd!