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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 25, 2013 18:05:43 GMT -5
Ted...shutup! You literally accused over half the cast of being in pre-games. You shouldn't talk. Because every time you said "I TOTALLY ACCUSED YOU OF THAT LOLOLOL" or "I KNEW IT!!!!" I want to punch someone...
This topic is stupid.
Anyways, her and I talked about going deep into the game together, but nothing substantial. And I didn't trust what we talked about going into it anyways so honestly we didn't bond until we got to Kraken and Qaawan.
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 25, 2013 18:07:28 GMT -5
And Syd and I didn't have a pre-game. Pre-game to me would be more of a relationship that you know you can count 100% on to be loyal and say anything. I had that with DD/Kim, but Syd I didn't even trust until like halfway through the game and as things started shifting we both realized we could count more on each other. I will admit, we wanted to go far into the game together and talked a bit before about working together if I ended up playing, but we were not in any way solid enough to really consider it a pre-game. I still have doubts that she was 100% loyal to me. Exactly like I accused you of Judd, and you vehemently denied lol And whatever you accused me of of course I denied. I didn't trust you and you threw out everyone's name like they were condoms at a sorority party! I wasn't going to say "Oh yeah I had a deal with Kim, and DD, and Syd!!" And honestly, from what I remember you only said I was attached to Kim. You never accused me of being close to DD OR Syd...you only accused me of being Kim's puppet which she was the one I was least connected to, honestly. |
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jul 25, 2013 19:03:34 GMT -5
Oh Judd I didnt accuse everybody, people just blew that all out of proportion in an attempt to discredit me.
it was basically 7 people ( look at my jury question, the ones boxed in purple) the others weren't really "PRE-GAME" like Shawna, Vecepia-Alexis-Wanda but were just closely alligned with them, and those people I didn't accuse. The 7 people I did accuse were very very accurate.
I already knew you were very tight with all of them ( granted I thought more Kim than Syd-DD, but all 3 of them were the ones in complete power and center of it so it doenst matter that much, you're still a pawn to them) which made our conversations hilarious you trying to deny it.
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 25, 2013 21:49:58 GMT -5
Never a pawn. Pawn's have no mind and just follow. You were more of Kim's pawn than I was...until you voted out Sandra which then got you voted out so...  I talked to them about things, but I still did my own things. I voted against Kim at least 3 times throughout the game. I voted against DD like 2 or 3 times and I never was with Syd until merge. Besides that, I ran stuff on Tres en Gwad and and I was on the inner workings of Qaawan until the Kim blindside. I wasn't close with Miki, though we did talk and were kind of aligned, but when I made the move against her I don't think she trusted me anymore. To say I was a pawn was a huge overstatement and that's why I continue to deny it because you don't know any of the inner workings though you'd say you did...which is why it was so funny the round you left the first time and the second time. And saying if we didn't merge, you had it made on that tribe...you would have been first out regardless and it's funny you think otherwise. |
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 25, 2013 22:06:19 GMT -5
ANd you can't say I was with everyone Kim and DD and Syd were with....because I wasn't. I obviously knew who they were wanting to work with, but I didn't know they all got the same deal I did...so good on DD and Kim, I suppose though I was largely against it because they made the pact with me based off our friendship and wanting to play together rather than it's what was smartest for the game.
I would have tried to work with DD, but likely wouldn't have wound up as close to her as I did otherwise. If DD didn't come to me with Kim, I likely would have targeted Kim very early. You should know by now how loyal I am...I knew I needed to get rid of them and I knew that, but I don't know I could have ever brought myself to do that.
Plus, you should also know the game of Survivor is about timing, Ted. Yours was awful because of who you went against and who you saved instead. Coach affiliations were an instant target and he had like 2 people beside you in the game...Kim had many more. I don't care about being in someone's shadow because there comes a proper time to make the move. My time was cut before I was ready to make the move.
I think taking out DD or Kim the double tribal round would have been awful timing and taking Kourtney and I out when they did is proving to have been awful timing and short sighted as well.
It was my fault for making the first threats because we all could have advanced more together, but they were planning to take me out and would have before I took them out, I'm sure of that...it's not being a pawn or being oblivious, it's honestly my loyalty.
I have nothing more to say about the matter because you have no room to speak of my game whether you think you know it or not.
A lot of people in this game APPEARED transparent, but obviously a lot of people had a lot of side deals and that's something you should expect. I could have gone many different ways if I would have idol'd myself and seen who turned on me...I still think I'd be in the game even...so it's all about the time. I didn't get to my time and they got me first..plain and simple. I followed no single person, I only worked with them.
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jul 26, 2013 2:05:59 GMT -5
Your not just a loudmouth emotional moron afterall. I was never a "pawn" to Kim at any point, and you are right I made my move too early, and I should have ditched Coach for the good of my game. I basically sacrificed my game for him really. Here was my dilemma, Kim is never going to take me far into the game, she has you, Miki, Alex, DD and so many other people she was stringing me along, DD/Miki/Sydney didn't intend on taking me to the end either, I was kind of in a pre-game alliance with a bunch of players who were going to ditch me when I wasn't needed, and I didnt want to wait for it to happen (which is what happened to you and Kourtney). Coach was the only person in the entire game who would have remained loyal to me the ENTIRE game, thats why I stuck my neck out for him.
The flaw was Coach didnt have the allies or support to back himself up. You were smart to vote Coach even though he was a lot closer to you then Sandra, Chase/Carter etc, cause at the time it was more important to stay on Kim's side cause she had a shit ton of allies, which was my point during my whole pre-game accusation phase.
I believe though had I just played it cool, I would basically be in the exact same spot as you and Kourtney, and upgrade from 16th place to 13th place...not really that big a deal. I decided that rather than wait to be eliminated, I would try and take control and that maybe some of the floaters would take the opportunity, but they didn't cause it's a scarier route, they had stronger relationships with Kim then I did with them, so even though they knew how powerful she and her allies were they just went along with it.
If I had it to do over again I would have voted out Coach, and if you read my confessional after the game you will see I debated long and hard about that vote and I knew it would affect the rest of my game ( and not just my game, but the entire game). I couldnt stand the thought of killing the only person in the game I could trust 100% to go along and be a slave to a pre-game because thats where the power was, cause its just not the way I like to play the game. I would have had to play the "loyal soldier" and hope not to be voted out and I hate playing like that, but that would be my best and only option in the game because of the way things were.
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 26, 2013 2:23:30 GMT -5
Then we're agreed. We both took a different route, both got burned.
I'm the one who wound up getting hurt, you got voted out but knew the predicament you'd put yourself in.
And honestly, had Coach just not told me a round prior to that vote that we should go our separate ways and likely not align for the remainder of our times for the sake of our friendship outside the game, I would have voted with you guys and I would have pushed for Kim to go too.
We just had to have that talk, Coach and I... -___-
I honestly think it was a smart play for the reasons you stated, but you should have got rid of someone other than Sandra. Could have been an easy play on Kim or someone bigger.
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Post by Colby Donaldson on Jul 26, 2013 10:08:52 GMT -5
If Sydney's not voted out at this tribal....
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Post by Colby Donaldson on Jul 26, 2013 10:13:15 GMT -5
And honestly, had Coach just not told me a round prior to that vote that we should go our separate ways and likely not align for the remainder of our times for the sake of our friendship outside the game, I would have voted with you guys and I would have pushed for Kim to go too. We just had to have that talk, Coach and I... -___- I'm just gonna go out here and say this. People aren't gonna tell you that due to friendship reasons we're not gonna vote together. Do you think they want to WARN you ahead of time to gather your thoughts so they can vote against you? Its the nature of the game and that's where you have to realize that not all your friends are gonna be like "WARNING: due to friendsihp reasons, I must warn you to vote me out or vote against me. Imagine Kim told you the round you left she was voting you out? You'd have used the idol. |
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Post by DD on Jul 26, 2013 10:27:09 GMT -5
To Ted, Kim and I were completely loyal to the pentagon until you voted out Sandra. We questioned you then, but once you started showing everything under the sun to Elyse, we knew we had to ditch you.
To Judd, as my confessional will reflect after the game, there are people that I kept saying I'd have a near-impossible time voting out. For the longest time, you were on that list. Unfortunately, there were too many people on that list, so I was kind of looking for reasons to knock people off of it. Once you started throwing my name out there to Kim, I knew I had to take the opportunity.
(This is not to say that I didn't do things that may have caused you guys to go against me in the first place. I very well may have. Judd, for you in particular, I know I was a bitch to you the round Alexis left, and for that I am sorry once again.)
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jul 26, 2013 12:09:30 GMT -5
To Ted, Kim and I were completely loyal to the pentagon until you voted out Sandra. We questioned you then, but once you started showing everything under the sun to Elyse, we knew we had to ditch you. To Judd, as my confessional will reflect after the game, there are people that I kept saying I'd have a near-impossible time voting out. For the longest time, you were on that list. Unfortunately, there were too many people on that list, so I was kind of looking for reasons to knock people off of it. Once you started throwing my name out there to Kim, I knew I had to take the opportunity. (This is not to say that I didn't do things that may have caused you guys to go against me in the first place. I very well may have. Judd, for you in particular, I know I was a bitch to you the round Alexis left, and for that I am sorry once again.) To the merge...sure, but I don't think you were taking me near the end. The longer I stayed completely loyal I would have stayed, and then blindsided. You and Kim made it very clear you guys were in charge of everything and I wasn't, it was a case of too many chefs in the kitchen really, and I'm not one to bossed around. I had wanted to play my way, not the Kim-DD way. |
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 26, 2013 13:41:57 GMT -5
And honestly, had Coach just not told me a round prior to that vote that we should go our separate ways and likely not align for the remainder of our times for the sake of our friendship outside the game, I would have voted with you guys and I would have pushed for Kim to go too. We just had to have that talk, Coach and I... -___- I'm just gonna go out here and say this. People aren't gonna tell you that due to friendship reasons we're not gonna vote together. Do you think they want to WARN you ahead of time to gather your thoughts so they can vote against you? Its the nature of the game and that's where you have to realize that not all your friends are gonna be like "WARNING: due to friendsihp reasons, I must warn you to vote me out or vote against me. Imagine Kim told you the round you left she was voting you out? You'd have used the idol. I wasn't asking Kim to...read. i said Coach had a conversation with me about that. Had he not, I would have gone with him over Kim the round Sandra left. I never said I was expecting Kim to have that conversation with me haha |
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Post by Judd Sergeant on Jul 26, 2013 13:43:04 GMT -5
And Syd isn't leaving...she has the numbers! =P
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Post by Colby Donaldson on Jul 26, 2013 14:12:00 GMT -5
I'm just gonna go out here and say this. People aren't gonna tell you that due to friendship reasons we're not gonna vote together. Do you think they want to WARN you ahead of time to gather your thoughts so they can vote against you? Its the nature of the game and that's where you have to realize that not all your friends are gonna be like "WARNING: due to friendsihp reasons, I must warn you to vote me out or vote against me. Imagine Kim told you the round you left she was voting you out? You'd have used the idol. I wasn't asking Kim to...read. i said Coach had a conversation with me about that. Had he not, I would have gone with him over Kim the round Sandra left. I never said I was expecting Kim to have that conversation with me haha I'm using Kim as an example I know you were talking about Coach. I'm saying in general people won't do that. |
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Post by Colby Donaldson on Jul 26, 2013 14:12:19 GMT -5
And Syd isn't leaving...she has the numbers! =P Yeah its wishful thinking, but its still wishful! |
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